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When the car was discovered,
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{\an8}the bomb disposal officer
was dispatched to the scene.
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We found a number of small,
homemade, explosive devices.
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Homemade explosives
can be exceptionally volatile.
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Police officers evacuated
Luton railway station.
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They've had to move the material
bit by bit into a sandbagged area
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where they can detonate it.
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It showed just how organized,
sophisticated, coordinated,
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and dangerous the threat was.
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{\an8}Why would you leave explosives in a car
unless it was for future use?
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The attackers on 7/7 had died
at the scene. That much was clear.
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But we had to investigate, not only
who was involved in the actual attack
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and where they'd come from...
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A huge investigation.
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Even the smallest piece of evidence
could prove crucial.
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But also we had to be worried
that there might be a wider network.
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Who else knew about it?
Who had supported them?
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Who had financed them?
Who had encouraged them?
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Were there people associated with them
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who were going to come and launch
a second wave of attacks? We didn't know.
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The days just rolled into one.
We were just exhausted.
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We're looking for evidence in relation
to the identity of the bombers.
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{\an8}And that evidence is gonna come
from the device itself or from them.
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Did they have a mobile phone,
or a train ticket? Wallets? Cards?
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And of course, in an explosion,
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that stuff can get thrown
literally hundreds of meters away.
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There was so much within that carriage.
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Everything was documented,
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photographing anything
that was significant.
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Identification cards, bank cards,
jewelry, handbags,
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mobile phones, clothing.
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We compiled lists of the passengers
from each bomb site
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and sent them to MI5
and police forces across the country
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to see if any of the names
raised suspicions.
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I was the counter-terrorism senior
investigating officer for West Yorkshire.
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I'd been responsible for leading
some pretty high-profile cases,
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but this was the largest
criminal investigation
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there'd ever been in the United Kingdom.
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There was lots
of rapid information flow from London
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up to the investigation
incident room in Yorkshire.
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Lists of multiple names.
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People who tragically
had been caught up in these events.
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It quickly dawned on us
the enormity of the task,
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and the size and scale
that this inquiry was gonna take.
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I remember going through the lists
and seeing that we'd got three people
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from West Yorkshire,
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{\an8}from around the same neighborhood,
around Beeston, on the outskirts of Leeds.
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At first, we thought it could've just been
three young people travelling together,
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and unfortunately
got caught up in something.
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But then we realized
that there was something more significant
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about those individuals.
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Their identity documents...
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...were found
at three different bomb scenes.
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What's the likelihood of three people,
who were at three different bomb sites,
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coming from the same small neighborhood,
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two hundred and odd miles away
from where the events have taken place?
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But still, it could, of course,
have been a coincidence.
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And we didn't know whether
they were dead, alive, walking wounded.
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But then we discovered
one of them, Hasib Hussain,
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had been reported missing by his family.
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A very skilled and trusted officer
went to go and visit them.
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{\an8}Hasib's information was found
at the Tavistock Square bus attack.
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Was Hasib potentially a victim?
Or was he connected to the attacks?
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When I met Mr. Hussain, Hasib's father,
and Hasib's older brother, Imran,
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they were, obviously,
both extremely worried about him.
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They'd been ringing and ringing
his mobile number, no response.
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Mr. Hussain was a very nice man,
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and I could tell he was
a very loving father.
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He was very keen to point out
that Hasib said his prayers,
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he prayed five times a day,
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he was going to college,
not going out at night.
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He was not taking drugs,
not going out with girls.
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He was not drinking alcohol.
He was absolutely the perfect son.
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But Mr. Hussain didn't know any reason
why his son would go to London.
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And he didn't know who he'd gone with,
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where he was going,
what he was doing there.
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Didn't know when he was coming back.
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And I thought,
"If he's such a well-behaved, loyal son,
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why has he not told them
about where he's going, what he's doing?"
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During our conversations,
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I was aware that Imran,
Hasib's brother, didn't speak.
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That was bothering me.
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Just as we were leaving,
I slipped him my telephone number
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and just said to him quietly,
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"Give me a ring if there's anything
you want to talk about."
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Cate rang me.
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She had this slightly niggling feeling.
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Was Cate's antenna correct?
Was there something else?
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If so, what was that? At the same time,
there was so much going on.
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We were constantly running
lots of lines of inquiries.
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This was just one aspect
of everything else happening at the time.
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Amidst the grief, one of the most vigorous
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and intensive manhunts
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the UK has ever seen.
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Forensic experts
are still trying to establish
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exactly what type of explosives
were used by the bombers.
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We were under pressure
from the police to try and find out
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what type of device was it,
how was it set off.
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So you sift through all the debris
from that scene for traces of explosives,
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{\an8}because the type of explosive does give
the police clues to who the bombers are.
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In essence, we were looking
for the components of a bomb.
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Vanishingly small traces.
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But we were coming up complete blank.
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Absolutely no traces of any of the normal
high explosives that we'd expect to find.
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This way of making bombs was entirely new.
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This was the first time in my experience
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that I'd ever come across
anything like this,
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and that was a big concern for us.
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That evening, I got a phone call.
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I didn't recognize the number,
but it turned out to be Imran,
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Hasib's brother.
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And he told me that he had been
in his brother's bedroom,
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and he'd found a phone
that he didn't know his brother had.
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There was only one telephone number on it.
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He rang that number...
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and it turned out to be a gentleman
who had rented a property to his brother...
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18 Alexandra Grove.
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But why would this 18-year-old lad,
who lived in the house with his parents,
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be renting a house?
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All he said to me is, "You need to get
yourself round there quick."
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18 Alexandra Grove
was put under observation.
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Very quickly, there were reports
coming back from the officers
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to say there were concerns.
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The bushes had got wilted leaves,
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and clearly, had been subject
to some kind of toxic chemicals.
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That was a huge worry and a concern.
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I got a phone call.
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There was a possible
crime scene up in Leeds,
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and could somebody go?
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We didn't know what we'd find.
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Could there be explosives in there?
That was my number-one concern.
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We don't go in through
an obvious entrance like a doorway,
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in case it's booby-trapped.
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Once we got inside...
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it was a complete and utter mess.
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Lots of trays, lots of filter papers,
as you'd find in a lab.
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Lots of white powder residues.
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That's a scary thing.
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If that's the detonator material,
then friction,
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just rubbing it between two surfaces,
or dropping it,
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any of those things will make it detonate.
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There were hot plates.
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Lots of aluminum pans.
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A number of bottles
labelled hydrogen peroxide.
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There was buckets of brown sludge.
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I actually don't have a sense of smell.
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Never have had, born without one.
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But people were telling me
this brown stuff stank of shit.
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But if that's really shit,
there are no flies.
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Not one.
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I thought this dark brown stuff
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was actually some kind
of high-explosive mixture.
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And it was all over the place.
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Never seen anything like that.
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It's clearly
where they constructed the devices.
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It's where they'd met regularly.
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The team were gathering
more and more forensic leads.
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Things like telephone SIM cards,
biometrics, including DNA, fingerprints,
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all connected to the three individuals
on that list.
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The forensic team also discovered
a number of links to the fourth bomber,
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whose documents had been found
at the site of the Russell Square attack.
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We'd now got a breakthrough.
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We were able to now confirm
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that Mohammad Sidique Khan,
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Shehzad Tanweer...
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...Hasib Hussain,
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and Jermaine Lindsay
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had been responsible for these atrocities.
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They were the four that built the bombs,
that took them down to London,
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that detonated them,
killing 52 innocent people.
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The prime minister said
he was shocked to learn
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that the bombers were homegrown terrorists
born and raised in the UK.
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This is the face
of one of the four London bombers,
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Mohammad Sidique Khan,
30 years old, a father himself.
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Shehzad Tanweer,
the 22-year-old responsible
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for the Aldgate blast.
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British of Jamaican origin,
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Jermaine Lindsay, father of one.
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This is Hasib Hussain.
He was 18 years old.
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He blew himself up on the number 30 bus
at Tavistock Square.
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We realized it was done
by people who were British,
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people who'd been brought up in Britain,
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who'd frankly enjoyed all
the advantages of being British,
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um, and all the support
that the British society
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and state gives people.
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Obviously, what that showed you was
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that there were people
within our own society
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who wanted to cause deep,
profound harm to our country.
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Good evening from Leeds,
a city united in shock.
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Now, the people of Leeds
have to face up to the fact that
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the suspected bombers
come from their city.
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This was a different kind of threat
than we'd ever experienced before.
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The people that had committed
these atrocities
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came from within our own communities,
on our own doorstep.
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It was unprecedented.
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Could you all move out
of line of sight of this road.
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You'll have to go back. I'm sorry.
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We were continually knocking on doors
in and around Beeston.
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Were there were more people involved?
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Had this been part of a network
of other terrorists?
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Was there going to be another attack?
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When I arrived to cover the story,
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there was police everywhere,
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and there must've been
over a hundred journalists.
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{\an8}You'd be falling over each other
because Beeston is quite small.
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{\an8}It's only a couple of miles.
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The people I spoke to,
they were just deeply shocked.
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These men, from their community,
were responsible for killing 52 people.
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They'd seen them as nice men, you know.
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Mohammad Sidique Khan
worked as a teaching assistant
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in a local school there.
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It can't be Mr. Khan.
They must've got it wrong.
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Somebody's got it wrong somewhere.
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Hasib Hussain,
he was the golden boy of the family.
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Shehzad Tanweer
had spent a couple of years
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at university studying sports sciences.
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He was always playing around like that.
He was a clever boy, they say.
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We found two young boys.
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They were like, "Only a few days ago,
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we were playing cricket
with Shehzad Tanweer."
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Hang around with him for half an hour,
you'd be his friend.
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The fourth man was Jermaine Lindsay.
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He was a convert to Islam
and grew up nearby in Huddersfield.
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There's people that do these kind of acts
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which are completely contrary
to the teachings of Islam.
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I remember their faces,
and they were so pale,
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like the blood had drained from them
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because they just couldn't
quite cope with the news.
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This street has been cordoned off
since first thing this morning.
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There was a real, palpable sense of fear
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amongst the community in that area.
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They felt the authorities were treating
all of them like potential suspects.
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Harassing everybody.
It's harassment more than anything else.
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I was always getting phone calls saying,
"This house has been raided."
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"This person's been arrested."
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So this is a community under siege,
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and they're asking
the wider community to understand
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the Islam of the terrorists
is not the Islam we worship.
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I was thinking, "Not again."
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The Muslim community couldn't go through
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{\an8}a moment where they were put
under a microscope again.
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Because we had lived in that time of 9/11,
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where we had to somehow apologize
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for the actions of some crazy people.
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It killed me that Islam
was being, you know,
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somehow associated with this bloodshed.
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These guys had done the most heinous thing
that any human being could do,
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which was to take the lives
of innocent people.
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That's why we're upset, man.
That people are just--
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People wanna make them out
to be through and through bad people,
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but you don't understand
they were good people.
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So why have they done it? That's it, man.
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To all intents and purposes,
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there was nothing about them
that would've given any indication
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that these people were about to carry out
the biggest terrorist atrocity in the UK.
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But during the course
of the investigation,
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a plastic bag had been found
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that contained a number of videos.
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They were the videos of the bombers.
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One of those videos
was particularly disturbing.
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It was a video of Mohammad Sidique Khan,
where he was holding his young daughter.
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I've not got too long to go now.
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And I'm gonna really, really miss you.
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But I absolutely love you to bits.
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You've been the happiest thing
in my life, you and your mum.
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I just so much wanted to be with you,
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but I have to do this thing
for our future.
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Quite chilling.
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The very fact that he knows
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there's a strong likelihood
he's going to be dead,
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and yet his daughter
should still be proud of him in the future
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'cause he's fighting a cause,
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is something I find impossible
to kinda get your head around.
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Killing 52 innocent people,
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you know, it's just so difficult
to try and understand.
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Police say
the forensic examinations in Beeston
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will continue probably
for several days to come,
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trying to find out who turned
these men into mass murderers.
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I was a part of an organization
trying to bring about social action,
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um, and welfare,
within the Muslim community,
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with young people.
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Shehzad Tanweer was a teenager
when I met him.
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He was a decent kid
from an affluent family.
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His father, you know,
he's a well-known business person.
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One day, Shehzad invited me
to the Iqra bookshop in Beeston,
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and that's where I realized, um,
his viewpoint, his real viewpoint.
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I was invited around the back
to listen to a cassette recording
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of Sheikh Faisal,
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a Salafi jihadist preacher.
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The British
are the greatest enemies of Islam
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and the Muslims.
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When there's a jihad,
you need to know who to kill.
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So it's important to know
who's a Muslim and who's a kafir.
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He said that if you see
a non-Muslim walking down the street,
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you're allowed to kill him,
and you'll go to paradise.
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It literally gave me goosebumps,
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and my-- my hair on the back
of my neck stood up.
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I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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And I said, "This is nonsense."
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"This does not come
from legitimate Islamic text."
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"Islam is a religion of peace."
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And they kept on responding,
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"Well, we're in a state of war."
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And I'm thinking, "Look around."
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"Are we really in a state of war?"
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And for them,
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what was going on
in Iraq, um, and Afghanistan
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meant that we were in a state of war.
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They believed that the Americans
and the British people
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had authorized the invasion
of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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And that meant that we were--
They call it Dar al-Harb,
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meaning that this is the land of war.
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And because it's the land of war, um,
anything is legitimate.
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That really, really scared me.
We got into an argument.
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They started swearing.
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"You don't know what you're talking about.
You're an agent of the West. Traitor."
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I was a heretic Muslim.
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I really, really thought
that someone was gonna throw a punch.
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You know, I was gonna get attacked.
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After the incident, Shehzad Tanweer
started to distance himself from me.
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I didn't know who to turn to.
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Because by that moment in time,
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it was just an issue
of-- of people having ideas.
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Never did it ever cross my mind
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that they would bring war
to the streets of London.
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Detectives are still trying to figure out
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what linked the men together.
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Attention has been focused
on this bookstore.
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We know that three of the men
were customers here.
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Quite quickly, I think, the police's
attention turned to the Iqra bookshop.
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For most Muslims,
this was just an ordinary bookshop,
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but there were rumors
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that a very small group of men
had been using this place
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to share their vile, extremist views.
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That made sense to me
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because since the 1990s,
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you had extremist preachers,
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men like Abu Hamza,
Omar Bakri, and Sheikh Al-Faisal.
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They twisted the Quran,
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and more and more, exploited the sense
of injustice over Western foreign policy
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to radicalize a very small minority
of young Muslim men
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who felt that they didn't belong,
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that Britain wasn't their country anymore,
that it was their enemy.
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If you look at
some of the terrorist attacks before 7/7,
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you can see that British Muslim men,
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who radicalized in the UK,
had been behind them.
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I mean, look at 9/11.
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One of the failed 9/11 bombers
was Zacarias Moussaoui.
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Where was Zacarias Moussaoui radicalized?
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Where did he learn about jihad?
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The same with Richard Reid,
the shoe bomber.
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Here in the UK.
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So 7/7 didn't happen in a vacuum.
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The policy to go to war in Iraq,
I think that was the trigger,
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and that's why 7/7 happened.
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You accept that the invasion of Iraq
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has acted as a recruiting sergeant
for al-Qaeda
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and made Britain a greater target?
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Well, they will use any issue.
They will always have a reason.
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It's such a difficult argument, this,
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when-- when people say,
"Well, you 'caused' this terrorism."
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In the end, if you're a political leader,
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you can't take decisions on the basis
of what a terrorist might do.
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You take decisions on the basis
of what you believe is right.
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Now, you may end up being wrong,
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and it may be
that people disagree with you,
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but you-- you can't have policy
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governed by the reaction of people
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who then go out
and kill completely innocent people.
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I'm gonna talk to you
in a language that you understand.
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Your democratically elected governments
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{\an8}continuously perpetuate atrocities
against my people all over the world.
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Our words are dead
until we give them life with our blood.
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We are at war, and I am a soldier.
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And now you too will taste
the reality of this situation.
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They brought me out of the coma
I'd been in since the explosion.
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For a long time in hospital,
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people tried to get me to avoid
newspapers, the news, things like that,
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and up to a point I had,
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but I thought, "Fuck it, I wanna know
what's going on in the world."
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So I put BBC News on.
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How did four young British men
end up becoming suicide bombers
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in their own country?
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As I was lying there watching it,
his face come up.
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We will not stop this fight.
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We are at war, and I am a soldier.
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I was just like,
"I can't fucking believe this."
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Because as soon as I saw him,
I could see him in the carriage.
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It was almost as if the impact
of the blast had hit me again.
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That's the man that I see every night.
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That's the man
that follows me everywhere I go.
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And I punched the telly.
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My first reaction was...
I hit the telly to get it away from me.
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I just can't...
I can't get my head around it.
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I can't begin to imagine
what was going through his head,
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other than just nothing but vitriolic hate
for every single one of us.
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In the aftermath of the terrorist attacks,
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Londoners carry on as normal.
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Meanwhile, the task of identifying
the dead is continuing.
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For the relatives of the missing,
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each day brings
more uncertainty and misery.
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I was 16 years old.
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My mum had been missing
since 7/7 had happened.
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{\an8}I was upstairs in my room,
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{\an8}and my family was watching the news.
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Good afternoon.
Victims of London's terror attacks
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have been named.
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I just remember hearing, like,
all of these screams from downstairs.
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They got louder and louder.
410
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It was almost like they rose
through the floorboards like smoke.
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Gladys Wundowa,
a cleaner at University College London,
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was a passenger on the bus
in Tavistock Square.
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In the past hour,
University College London...
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My dad, he said, "Okay, we need
to tell you that Mummy's not coming home."
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Um...
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"Mummy's passed away."
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I just started screaming.
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And no one could stop me.
There was no consoling me at that point.
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I remember this faint smell of my mum
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on this pillow
as I'm, like, screaming and crying.
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But it was this realization
that she was not there,
422
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,160
and she was just not coming back.
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She was gone.
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At midday,
one week after the terror attacks,
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crowds gathered at the scenes
of all four bombings
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for a two-minute tribute
to those killed and injured.
427
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It wasn't just that,
you know, I lost my mum.
428
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I lost so much more than just my mum.
429
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I lost my ability
to believe that I could do anything.
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And I didn't have that person who,
no matter what happens in the world,
431
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no matter who rejects me in the world,
how many times my heart gets broken,
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there's one safe place
that I can go to that I belong.
433
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Suddenly, I didn't have
somewhere that I belonged anymore.
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That 16-year-old died when my mum did.
435
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,480
On the streets of London,
police presence is total.
436
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,920
This huge investigation is far from over.
437
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:58,880
Although the attacks bore the hallmarks
of al-Qaeda-directed terrorism,
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there wasn't a clear sense
of the structure of the network
439
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that had been responsible.
440
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200
We didn't know who else
may have been involved,
441
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,400
or whether there were other groups
likely to carry out further attacks.
442
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:28,400
At this time, all we knew was that someone
had made an effective explosive.
443
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,520
We tried all sorts of different tests.
444
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,160
But we can't make head or tail of it.
445
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,320
What... What is this stuff?
446
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,879
As we did more and more testing,
447
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,799
it became clear that the idea
that these four people
448
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,519
get together and decide
they're going to make these bombs
449
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,760
and have them work as they did
is just preposterous.
450
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,480
They haven't just dreamed
this up themselves.
451
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,800
It would take a lot of training
for someone to put these devices together.
452
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,240
They must've had help,
and expertise, and advice.
453
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,199
We have entered a chilling new era
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00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,039
in the terrorist history of this country.
455
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,479
These were young British citizens
456
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willing to die to cause
maximum death and destruction.
457
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800
They were not on the radar
of the security forces.
458
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,239
I was an investigative reporter
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00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,280
interested in extreme
Islamist networks in the UK.
460
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,319
In the days after 7/7,
all the information I was getting
461
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,120
was that the bombers were not known
to intelligence or police.
462
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,080
That was totally untrue.
463
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,839
I was speaking to a confidential source,
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00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,399
and he said to me,
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00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,519
when MI5 plugged
the bombers into their database,
466
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,360
two of them, Mohammad Sidique Khan
and Shehzad Tanweer,
467
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,000
had been on MI5's radar
a year before the attacks.
468
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,759
In 2004, they were both photographed
and featured in surveillance
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00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000
on a number of occasions with Omar Khyam,
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00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,680
an active British terrorist
linked to al-Qaeda,
471
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,039
who was planning
a mass-casualty bomb attack
472
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960
targeting nightclubs,
bars, and shopping centers.
473
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400
That plan was foiled.
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00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,399
But even though both Mohammad Sidique Khan
475
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,039
and Shehzad Tanweer
476
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,759
featured in the surveillance
of a UK terrorist plot,
477
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,920
MI5 failed to keep an eye on them.
478
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,919
Whenever you have a plot like that,
479
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,720
which ended in arrests,
480
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,639
you go back and check, as it were,
481
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,800
the peripheries
and all the other contacts.
482
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,680
The leader of that plot
had 4,000 telephone contacts.
483
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,360
We prioritized the top dozen,
484
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:20,160
but Tanweer and Mohammad Sidique Khan
were not among those people.
485
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,279
{\an8}Our belief at the time
was that they were not part of it.
486
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,880
In fact, our conviction was
that they were not part of it.
487
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,999
Essentially,
MI5 let two of the 7/7 bombing team
488
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,400
slip through the net.
489
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160
This was a major intelligence failure.
490
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,879
Unfortunately,
we have to prioritize the people
491
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,559
who look as though
they are most concerning.
492
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,719
This is an uncomfortable exercise,
493
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,839
but no organization in the world
has the resources to do everything.
494
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,320
My colleagues and I regret
being unable to stop it,
495
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,399
but I don't believe,
496
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,479
even being self-critical,
that we could have done.
497
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,600
That was the view of those
who externally judged our performance.
498
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,919
If MI5 had made Mohammad Sidique Khan
499
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,600
and Shehzad Tanweer
priority-one target for surveillance,
500
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,439
they'd have seen
that they went out to Pakistan
501
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,720
to train for jihad
502
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,240
in November 2004.
503
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,920
In fact, Mohammad Sidique Khan went out
to train on at least three occasions.
504
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,520
He got weapons training,
505
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,920
bomb-making skills.
506
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,599
He also met an al-Qaeda senior figure
507
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,840
who convinced him to go back
to the UK and attack Britain.
508
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,480
Thousands of British citizens like him
had passed through these camps.
509
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Many of those people came back to the UK,
but now they were militarized.
510
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,200
And then, back in the UK,
they just simply disappeared.
511
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120
If one bombing team
has already slipped through the net...
512
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,800
how many others might there be out there
that they've missed?
513
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,199
We tried all sorts of different tests
514
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,880
to work out what this stuff was.
515
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,320
Finally, one of the tests gave us
a result for a material called piperine,
516
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,960
a component in black peppercorns.
517
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,839
It turns out the bombs were made
with ground black pepper
518
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,199
and hydrogen peroxide,
519
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,040
which you can get from hair bleach.
520
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,560
Clearly, you can buy those anywhere.
521
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,960
This is now very, very scary.
522
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,759
What you've got
is very easily obtainable materials
523
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
to make reliable high explosives,
524
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,400
and the security services
would have no clue.
525
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:58,759
Two weeks after the bombings,
work down in the tunnel had finished.
526
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040
All the victims had been removed.
527
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,759
We just held a very short service.
528
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,960
We read out the names of each
of those victims who had been killed.
529
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,040
And, um, I remember
I just had the feeling...
530
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,680
This wasn't over.
531
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,679
We're getting reports
of a series of incidents.
532
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,839
Still pretty unclear what's happened.
533
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,079
It's happening all over London.
534
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,920
London is attacked once again.